Nick Outram
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Matt, try spending some time over at The Oil Drum: www.theoildrum.com -and watch out for Export Land Model posts by Westexes and Khebab. They are estimating that there will be NO oil exported from KSA by 2032... Nick. |
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| concise article on an issue that no one seems to be aware of---except Warren Buffett who thinks airlines are money holes. | |
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| Why 10 to 15 years from now? If oil production has peaked and the price of a barrel reaches $200 or higher in the near future, won't air travel be significantly reduced in the next few years? I read somewhere about one prominent peak oil alarmist saying that discretionary air travel would be one of the first things to go once the downward slide of oil production begins. His forecast if I recall correctly was around 2009/2010. | |
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Take a look at the market monitor clip on Weekly Business Report on PBS, for an example of a market analyst who has been completely left behind by events. Last July Julius Maltudis an airlines analyst recommended 5 airline stocks on the presumption that oil would fall from about $60 to what I'm not sure. Oil doubled. The stocks are down anywhere from 50 to nearly 70%. Mr. Maltudis is sticking with three of his former recommendations if only oil will go back to $70 or $80. I think we are going to see a lot more of these bewildered individuals in the financial industry in the months to come. |
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| Hi Matt, I would say that airports would be closed well before 2030. You can look at the data for oil production decline and decide for yourself: http://www.peakoilassociates.com/POAnalysis.html | |
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| Jon, Yes, you looked at the data and reality and came to the right conclusion: air travel will last a few years. News sources like to provide the facts, as well as a rosy picture about our future. | |
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| I don't doubt that oil will peak but the father of peak oil himself predicted the peak to be Thanksgiving, 2006. Something in human nature is fascinated with end times. In the 1840's, the Millerites predicted the exact day of the end of the world, but the day came and went. More recently many people were worried that computer software would fail in the year 2000, causing power plant outages and riots. Whether or not the same people worrying about Y2K are now worrying about peak oil, they're peas in the same pod. | |
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| indeed, oil has peaked. hasn't it dawned on you that crude oil prices have risen so fast in so short a time? why is the government scrambling to use biofuels? check out the iea and eia data on www.theoildrum.com. this data is used by many governments and businesses around the world, dude. | |
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Hi folks. Seeing that the deep-water off-shore drillers such as Transocean, Noble Corporation, and Diamond Offshore are doing much better than the near-shore drillers (such as Ensco, Global Santa Fe -- recently bought by Transocean too -- etc) and the onshore drillers (Rowan, Nabors, etc), it is clear that it is later in the oil production game than it seems to many people. Expect hard times to be here within a decade. Lates. g |
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| Hi Tom, Every historical age has a beginning and an end. This is the end of the oil age. It is also the end of modern civilization, which is entirely dependent on oil. Hard times will come in less than a decade. | |
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Thanks Nick. Though merely a Joe Average, yes I scan through TOD every now and again, looking for either definative proof of PO, or an answer to it (though I'm also not sold on the idea that Man is signifcantly contributing to the planet's natural warming cycle. Nor indeed that a super-being named God built the planet and everything on it - too much thinking does the mind in sometimes, wouldn't you agree?). And to Clifford... You're just plain freaking me out, man! Until the papers start running the headline, "The World is Running Out of Affordable Oil", I simply can't accept that my forty-two years on this planet - not to mention the decades ahead for my kids and their kids - spent calving out a reasonable life-style have been for naught! Surely, the world is not coming to an end any time soon. Surely the smartest scientists, engineers and people-in-power are on the case. Surely! |
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| The era of fossil fuel planes and $pace $huttle dinosaurs (model T gas rocket bombs) is over. Amerikan $ociety will need to metamorph to anti-gravitic machines... or devolve back to bicycles and horses. The current paradigm for the air industry is now collapsing in all sectors. Most airlines, and perhaps all airlines, will be completely bankrupt and shuttered by 2011 or 2012. "My kingdom for a horse?" | |
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This article is both long overdue and very incisive about the state of the industry. Congratulations. The level of comments is gratifyingly high as well. For heavier-than-air, a rear-mounted swept wing with canards using counter-rotating propfans (like the Russian backfire) would cut operating costs by more than half. Go to a blended-wing propfan and you're talking a two-thirds reduction in fuel use per unit distance. If PDE's (pulse detonation engines) can get off the test bed, then their use at high altitudes would allow supersonic flight at current per hour fuel burns. (They are too loud for use at low altitudes.) What many of our leaders, political and business, do not seem to grasp is that a fundamental change of infrastructure has to be planned to a fare-thee-well. It also takes a decade or more to implement. That will take national-level leadership of a caliber that we frankly have not had in this country since Eisenhower. I am not sanguine that that will change. |
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| At my company, all non-essental travel has already been cancelled. I predict video-conferencing is going to take off like never before. | |
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